tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1076171049417505718.post4798417049570878553..comments2023-07-28T09:53:02.523+01:00Comments on Dr Kelly's Death - Suicide or Murder: DC Coe guarded the body for 25 to 30 minutes - or did he?brian in the tamar valleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475701925894027724noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1076171049417505718.post-45057201502753523492011-01-10T20:40:25.127+00:002011-01-10T20:40:25.127+00:00From farmouse
It was probably not the boat peopl...From farmouse<br /> <br />It was probably not the boat people, who walked back up to the wood and moved the body, they would have been dressed in casual clothes (they were on holiday) but remember the boat people claimed they had seen "Police Officers" at some time previous when questioned by the dog handlers earlier that morning. <br />Could these "Police Officers" have been hiding in the disused buildings that comprise Thameside Farm in between times?<br />Or perhaps the body was moved by any of the many "Police Officers" that seem to appear as if from nowhere during the morning of the 18th, while DC Coe guarded the body from the various other poeple who had walked accross from the village.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1076171049417505718.post-78113602910058954282011-01-10T16:44:43.922+00:002011-01-10T16:44:43.922+00:00The information from @Farmouse about the civilians...The information from @Farmouse about the civilians searching at Harrowdown Hill is new (I stand to be corrected).Who had asked them?<br />Read what ACC Mick Page has to say:<br /><i>Well the result of my meeting [5.15 onwards] was that we began to establish a search pattern. As a holding measure,I asked for officers who were reinforcement officers who were arriving about this stage -- we had between 30 and 40 officers available to us, and I asked them to start searching outward from Dr Kelly's house. I asked for the helicopter to be brought into play again."</i><br /><br />Compare with what PC Franklin says...<br />"<i> I believe it was only the two volunteers out searching at that time. The parameters for our search and the logistics of calling our teams in does take a bit of time. So PC Sawyer and I were going to be the first team out on the ground."</i><br /><br />So what happened to the 30 plus police searchers? Could they not have been summoned quickly to help DC Coe secure Harrowdown Hill? Wouldn't it have been better for Coe to stand where Farmouse took photos? He couldn't be in two places at once. Or did he <i>have</i> to leave the potential VIP body unattended?<br />And why wasn't the helicopter brought back into play after the 5.15 meeting?<br />Notice this too from Mr Page <br />"<i>The police helicopter had also been called out and had been making <b> intermittent</b> searches.</i> WHY INTERMITTENT? (the refuelling is I think a red herring)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1076171049417505718.post-83878322788482593252011-01-10T13:49:20.583+00:002011-01-10T13:49:20.583+00:00Farmouse's point about the probable location o...Farmouse's point about the probable location of DC Coe "guarding" the body would beautifully explain why he wasn't able to give much detail about Dr Kelly (see my following post). It's possible then that DC Coe whilst keeping an eye on the "front door" was effectively leaving the "back door" open.<br /><br />If the "boat people" weren't innocent holidaymakers, then when found by Brock the dog did a couple of them get out of the boat to watch the searchers and dog going back towards Harrowdown Hill? Did they see the searchers going round the north side of the wood (in the adjacent field)? Did they have the technology to listen in on Paul Chapman's 999 call? Did they nip back up to the hill when it was evident that dog and searchers were leaving the hill and heading south back down the track? Some interesting possibilities!brian in the tamar valleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13475701925894027724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1076171049417505718.post-23039876988299267732011-01-10T00:13:37.033+00:002011-01-10T00:13:37.033+00:00There appears to be some confusion here regarding ...There appears to be some confusion here regarding the position of the body in the wood in relation to the point on the track where the "Common Approach Path" would have started.<br />Harrowdown Wood is barely 100m wide at its widest point, and the trees and undergrowth are not very dense in the area where Dr Kelly's body was found so it would be possible to see the body from the track if one was to stand right on the edge of the track and look into the wood between the trees. I do have photos (taken recently) that illustrate this point should anybody unfamiliar with the location wish to see them.<br />DC Coe would not have had to set foot in the wood in order to show fellow officers where the body lay, he could have stood in the track that ran alongside the wood and by pointing into the wood he could have shown them exactly where the body lay. <br />I also have it on good authority that DC Coe did not move the body. He was never out of site of other officers or other people (several local farmers and volunteers had joined in the search by the time the body had been found)<br />However when DC Coe states he was "guarding" the body, or at least when he thought he was "guarding" the body it would be logical that he was "guarding" it from people approaching from the Longworth village end of the wood.....not from the other other way. In order to do this he would have been 100yds or so down track to the south of the wood probably near the gate that leads into the grass field to the south of the wood, not as he states 7 to 8 ft away from the body.....there would have been too greater risk of him trampling on potential evidence if he had waited that close to the body for 1/2 hour. <br />This would have given him control of the track and a reasonable view of grass field to the left of the track in case anybody chose to enter the wood by going through the gate and accross the grass field.<br />When DC Coe speaks about walking up into the wood with the other officers to show them where the body lay I think he means that he then walked up the last part of the track and round the corner to the point on the track where it was possible to access the wood....the "Common Approach Path"<br />So whilst DC Coe was or at least thought he was guarding the body anybody from the other direction could have done pretty much what ever they wanted and Coe probably wouldn't know a thing about it.farmousenoreply@blogger.com